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Jerry1979
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Dec 5, 2007 11:17 AM
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How can you clean up blood so there are no traces left at all?
Will Luminol find traces no matter what?
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mystericurious
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Nov 27, 2006 4:52 AM
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oh..haha..I didn't read your question up there correctly..I misread it...lol...sorry...I get it now..good luck in framing your husband for your murder  |
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mystericurious
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Nov 27, 2006 4:44 AM
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uh...Your husband went to desert storm and didn't come back?? You are asking how a person can clean up blood so it won't show up on the luminol test??? You want to purchase luminol to spray around your house to make sure that if they tested with luminol nothing will show up?? Hmmmmmm...
Well to clean up your husband's blood the best as i've heard is to use Miriotic Acid (not sure about the spelling). It might damage your kitchen floors and such though so maybe not... Or you can just go ahead and go to your local police station and turn yourself in...lol..no i'm only joking..i think.
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Rapunzell
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Oct 23, 2006 12:56 AM
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Anyone ?? 
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Rapunzell
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Oct 3, 2006 6:55 PM
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> From what I hear, even though someone might have > tried to clean up with a bleach product, some of the > traces of blood will still show. I don't know if it > is true or not but I saw it one forensic files. Hi - From the limited resources available, I've gathered that the Luminol glows for the most part because it is interacting with cleaning products. This makes me wonder if someone were to use just hot water they might be successful in getting rid of the evidence? BUT, I personally have no experience in cleaning up mass quantities of blood, but I suspect it is a pretty tenacious, adhesive substance. In fact, I was astounded a while back when I tried to clean some blood off my kitchen floor when I had cut my foot, and geez, it behaved like latex paint! Even with Clorox, it was very stubborn. Maybe blood can't be cleaned up without bleach & stuff? God must have factored in our nature when He made it sooo difficult to hide a dead body!  In fact, I wonder if, when God confronted Caine in The Garden of Eden saying "Where is your brother? His blood cries to me from the ground" if he meant "C'mon Caine, I know you killed him - the whole Garden stinks"! And can you imagine Caine's surprize probably thinking he'd gotten away with it - until it started to decompose sending up stench like a 'Lo-Jack'??  Not a lot of dignity in the 'Human experience'. Live 'n Learn I guess... |
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BabayGirl
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Oct 3, 2006 3:22 PM
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From what I hear, even though someone might have tried to clean up with a bleach product, some of the traces of blood will still show. I don't know if it is true or not but I saw it one forensic files.
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Rapunzell
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Oct 3, 2006 4:52 AM
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Thanks - Do you happen to know if blood will glow again after the first spray of Luminol, or is it a one time shot? I mean, if I were gonna kill somebody & I bought some Luminol & sprayed before the investigators could, would that cancel it out? What about fluorescent paint? Could someone pour glow-in-the-dark paint all over a crime scene & successfully confound the investigation? If blood has been cleaned up without the use of any chemicals at all will it still glow with Luminol (or Blue Star)? (Like a steam machine or something.) Can science tell (yet) the chronology of blood evidence? I mean, if there was blood spatter cleaned up days, weeks - even years apart, could they see that with just Luminol? Again - I am not going to kill anyone, I'm sure I'm not the only one interested enough to follow this line of thought, right?  I'd appreciate any info. |
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justagrunt
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Sep 24, 2006 9:51 AM
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Rapunzel,
Skip luninol....Blue Star works better. It reacts with more brightness and glows a little longer. Thats important to the the physical evidence detectives that are trying to photograph the reaction.
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Rapunzell
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Sep 24, 2006 4:03 AM
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> Maybe you are witting a comedy. You are not weird > but funny, yes. > > You sound like you already know the answer to the > questions you pose and post them for the sake of > argument. Sounds like one of our homicide partners in > the office. We all know him well. He needs no > introduction. > > Maybe if you purchase a bottle of luminol you can get > all those answers. Just please dont kill your > husband. > > Sincerly > > Det. Fred Ponce > Miami Homicide > Team 5 Hmmmmmm.....I sure wish I'd found this post sooner. I think you may have mistaken me for somebody else. I actually don't know the answers to these questions - and would still like to have the info. I won't be killing my husband - mostly because I haven't seen him since he disappeared during Desert Storm - and then sent me a post-card years later from Haifa, Israel saying he was opening a "Disco" there. I believe I will purchase a bottle of Luminol from the internet and play with it. Can I do that legally in California? BTW - Miami is my favorite.  Who did I remind you of? |
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sanjac56
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Sep 22, 2006 11:57 PM
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Sasha
give me a call at the office. I am sure you can figure out how to locate the number for Miami Homicide (City of Miami Police Department. Nice to here from you. I havent spoken to the old crew. It's been several years. Call me after 10 pm. I work the midnight shift.
Take care I'll talk to you soon
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Sasha Anne
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Aug 11, 2006 9:58 PM
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Hi Fred, old friend Its wonderful seeing you on my favorite show.......I salute you, detective. You take care, stay safe, and I'll keep up with the show.......I always knew you had a great mind, and this show proves my theory See ya my friend.... |
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sanjac56
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Jul 6, 2006 6:27 PM
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Maybe you are writting a comedy. You are not wierd but funny, yes.
You sound like you already know the answer to the quetions you pose and post them for the sake of argument. Sounds like one of our homicide partners in the office. We all know him well. He needs no introduction.
Maybe if you purchase a bottle of luminol you can get all those answers. Just please dont kill your husband.
Sincerly
Det. Fred Ponce
Miami Homicide
Team 5
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Rapunzell
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May 28, 2006 7:51 PM
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Rapunzell
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Oct 1, 2005 3:22 AM
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I understand that this site is dedicated to "The First 48", but I'm pretty sure if you're all interested in this stuff, you're probably interested in other areas of crime investigation so I'd like to run this by you.
There seems to be limited information given on "Luminol" from just about every source I've tried.
I wonder if anyone can answer my questions?
* How long does Luminol glow after spraying?
* Will the same spot glow again if you spray it another day? *And if not, what if every inch of a crime scene were sprayed with Luminol (purchased from the internet) before Investigators were able to get there?
* If some things other than blood cause a reaction - like mustard, meat, whatever, could someone use these substances to confuse a crime scene? *How about a murder in a meat-packing plant?
* What if blood were cleaned up without the use of chemicals - like with one of those super hot steam-cleaners, would it still show up with Luminol?
* Here's a weird one - What if I (just to be Devils' Advocate) wanted to frame my cheating husband for my murder, so every few days (or weeks, whatever) I were to let some of my own blood & splash it around in the kitchen & wipe it up so it wasn't visible to the naked eye, until I had done this enough times so as the Forensic evidence would conclude (after I staged my 'husband incriminating' disappearance of course) that no person could have lived with that amount of blood lost at the scene? Is that viable?
I'm sure that in the very near future there will be ways to tell the chronology of a room full of different blood spatters, but is that possible now?
Just curious.
P.S. I'm not a wierdo - I'm a writer...
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