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realityaddict06
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Bunny2
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Nov 1, 2006 2:30 PM
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texassnuboots
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Mar 24, 2006 9:31 PM
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> Right, Texas. Also, aren't diet pills supposed to
> make a person hyper in an effort to help them become
> energetic and lose weight? I am not well-versed on
> diet pills (I have never taken them and never will),
> but from what I understand if a person is taking them
> for a period of time (and depending how many they are
> taking), flying off the handle is almost expected
> (people get cranky just trying to lose weight without
> taking anything; I know I do).
I took diet pills for 6 wks once. They made me hyper, jittery, and irritable. When I did manage to sleep I gritted my teeth and tossed and turned according to hubby. That's how I was affected and I took them as prescribed. I did lose 7 lbs. and got off of them. But the dr. would have given me another mos. supply if I had wanted them. At the time, about 30 yrs ago, diet pills were not considered dangerous. Thank the Lord, I lost the weight I wanted to lose and got off of them. They changed my personality in just a matter of days. I had a new born child and I was so short tempered and snappy that I did not enjoy those first few weeks of having my child home with me. If I could do it all over again, I would exercise instead of depend on pills to lose the weight.
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texassnuboots
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Mar 24, 2006 9:23 PM
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> Of course he killed his family. No one else had
> motive, opportunity, etc. to kill the entire family
> and leave him with a few scratches.
I totally agree, jellyb.
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jellyb
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Mar 24, 2006 12:28 PM
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Of course he killed his family. No one else had motive, opportunity, etc. to kill the entire family and leave him with a few scratches.
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Spamela
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Mar 24, 2006 11:50 AM
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> > Joy: I'm not the best on grammar but I love how
> you
> > run your sentences together & use all lower case
> > letters. At least try a bit.
>
> ok spam, back to personal attacks. don't read them.
> you have that option.
Will, it would appear that you and I are the same people. Maybe fraternal twins separated at birth? Better let lawjunkie know so she can keep track of who is who in the multiple posters list.
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jellyb
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Mar 24, 2006 11:44 AM
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Of course he killed them. No one else had motive, opportunity, etc. to murder his entire family and leave him with a few scratches.
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rashomon
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Mar 24, 2006 11:00 AM
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"Also, MacD has lost 12 lbs. in the last 21 days before the murders. That is a lot of weight to lose for an already physically fit person. This is why I believe he was gobbling diet pills, not just taking one a day."
Tex, this was exactly what Joe McGinniss suspected too.
Right, Texas. Also, aren't diet pills supposed to make a person hyper in an effort to help them become energetic and lose weight? I am not well-versed on diet pills (I have never taken them and never will), but from what I understand if a person is taking them for a period of time (and depending how many they are taking), flying off the handle is almost expected (people get cranky just trying to lose weight without taking anything; I know I do).
Interesting also that JMD (I think it is in FV) mentioned that Colette when she once took diet pills for a little time got very cranky from them.
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oftenwonder
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Mar 24, 2006 10:08 AM
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Right, Texas. Also, aren't diet pills supposed to make a person hyper in an effort to help them become energetic and lose weight? I am not well-versed on diet pills (I have never taken them and never will), but from what I understand if a person is taking them for a period of time (and depending how many they are taking), flying off the handle is almost expected (people get cranky just trying to lose weight without taking anything; I know I do).
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texassnuboots
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Mar 24, 2006 10:00 AM
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Also, MacD has lost 12 lbs. in the last 21 days before the murders. That is a lot of weight to lose for an already physically fit person. This is why I believe he was gobbling diet pills, not just taking one a day.
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joyn49
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Mar 24, 2006 9:50 AM
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> Joy: I'm not the best on grammar but I love how you
> run your sentences together & use all lower case
> letters. At least try a bit.
ok spam, back to personal attacks. don't read them. you have that option.
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oftenwonder
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Mar 24, 2006 9:13 AM
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No one witnessed psychotic behavior? HA. MacDonald's family did; the problem is they are not alive to talk about it. Going without sleep as MacDonald did (getting a few hours as he reported at the hospital just doesn't cut it) can cause tempers to flare and this not even taking into account MacDonald's dominating/controlling personality and the pills he was taking. I have witnessed people "blow up" when they are stressed out and/or overworked. My sister is a workaholic and has a personality a lot like MacDonald's. She has blown up like a volcano, sometimes violently, and she has never taken speed/drugs/diet pills)!
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will05
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Mar 24, 2006 8:43 AM
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Joy: I'm not the best on grammar but I love how you run your sentences together & use all lower case letters. At least try a bit.
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joyn49
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Mar 23, 2006 7:25 PM
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the fact that no one witnessed any behavior that would have indicated amphetamine psychosis really rules that out. he had sleep at the hospital the night before and amphetamines do not accumulate in the body, there are obvious signs of someone suffering amphetamine psychosis and it doesn't happen in 10 min. amphetamines have a duration of action and then you have to take some more. if he took enough to have chronic toxicity because they are excreted slowly he wouldn't be acting perfectly normal as everyone stated and then snap. it just doesn't happen that way in the real world.
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tranquility
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Mar 23, 2006 6:57 PM
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> Allowing that Mac had been using speed, he'd been
> using it for weeks or months. It wouldn't have been
> a case of just taking a single diet pill for the
> first time ever and suddenly going into a psychotic
> rage; it would have been an accumulation of the drug
> which finally resulted in a psychosis . . .
As usual, you are right on target, Bunny2. Remember that MacD was working a full-time job in the Army and moonlighting at two different civilian hospitals, yet he was wide awake, even watching television and reading a book after Colette had gone to bed. It was a combination of an accumulation of amphetamines and lack of sleep that put him over the deep end. The only chance he had of eventually gaining his freedom was to plead temporary insanity, and with his ego (superego?) that course of action was out of the question. So he remains behind bars, which is exactly where he belongs.
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