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AunonD
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Re: I Respect McCain, But I Don't Like Movies About CURRENT POLITICIANS. It's Almost PROPAGANDA
Jun 11, 2005 4:42 PM
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I will NEVER vote for anyone who hasn't served in the military, and may be responsible to send me to war. Like George W. Bush? I think he has a lot of nerve sending our young people into a dangerous situation that he (nor his dad) would never have put himself into when he was younger. I agree with your statement and hopefully the next president will be one who has served fully and honorably, unlike our current "fortunate son".
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Idamag
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Re: I Respect McCain, But I Don't Like Movies About CURRENT POLITICIANS. It's Almost PROPAGANDA
Jun 11, 2005 1:21 PM
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No, i don't want a communist country. I want our democracy back.
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USAFBrat
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Re: I Respect McCain, But I Don't Like Movies About CURRENT POLITICIANS. It's Almost PROPAGANDA
Jun 10, 2005 2:20 AM
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"Boy, are you uninformed. The communists were burning the opium fields, the people who would stand to lose, petititioned the United States to protect them from communism. In reality, it was to protect their money making crops. Propaganda is what you got to make you believe it was a good thing to send trips to Viet Nam." After reading the context of this statement, are you asserting that the War in Vietnam was all about protecting the opium trade? And what FACTS do you have to back this up? And what is wrong with protecting people from communism? Do you know anyone that has lived under a communist regime or has seen what communism has done to their beloved region or country? I do. My late Thai grandfather worked in the refugee camps in Northern Thailand as Vietnamese, Lao, and Cambodian refugees were fleeing for their lives in fear of being executed by the communists because of their former societal "status" Amerasians, like myself, were pretty much left for dead and made for public ridicule and persecution in Vietnam. Random executions would be performed against people who were preceived threats against "Angka," "Uncle Ho," etc. Is this different from what Hitler performed against the Jews his reign of error? I jest not. Communism has no tolerance for free expression and thought. The people are brainwashed by party leaders into thinking that individual thought and expression are bad and selfish. Anyone who disagrees with the mindset of the party are targets for elimination. In the United States, we have these freedoms to assemble, to express dissent, to pursue our dreams freely (within legal means of course). Communism in SE Asia virtually destroyed the beauty of that region and a lot of local customs and traditions that were unique to these countries. I thank God and Buddha that Thailand was spared of that horror as she is still a beautiful and proud independent country (always has been, always will be). Or do you really desire a Communist world? STRAIGHT TALK EXPRESS ALL THE WAY IN '08!
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idamag
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Re: I Respect McCain, But I Don't Like Movies About CURRENT POLITICIANS. It's Almost PROPAGANDA
Jun 7, 2005 1:24 PM
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Saluting men and women who really did go to war in defense of this country is different than saluting attackers who killed over 100,000 innocent civilians. A president who sends the cream of our crop over their to commit murder is a disgrace to our nation. When our decent young men are turned into monsters who violate the Geneva Convention, they should paraphrase the poem with the words, "I love you, not only for what you are, but for what you are making of me..." They should be saying to the powers that be, "I hate you,not only for what you are, but for what you are making of me..."
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akgurl23
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Re: I Respect McCain, But I Don't Like Movies About CURRENT POLITICIANS. It's Almost PROPAGANDA
Jun 2, 2005 4:09 PM
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I agree. Hats off to you for doing what so many others cannot.
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idamag
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Re: I Respect McCain, But I Don't Like Movies About CURRENT POLITICIANS. It's Almost PROPAGANDA
Jun 2, 2005 12:44 PM
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I will vote for McCain if he runs, but I had better sense than to vote for bushie.
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idamag
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Re: I Respect McCain, But I Don't Like Movies About CURRENT POLITICIANS. It's Almost PROPAGANDA
Jun 2, 2005 12:41 PM
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Boy, are you uninformed. The communists were burning the opium fields, the people who would stand to lose, petititioned the United States to protect them from communism. In reality, it was to protect their money making crops. Propaganda is what you got to make you believe it was a good thing to send trips to Viet Nam. Propaganda is what you got to send troups to Iraq. Since it damages soldiers on both sides and innocent civilians, war shouldn't be entered into for false reasons. Even the soldier that comes back with all his limbs and his sight has had his psych injured.
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idamag
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Re: I Respect McCain, But I Don't Like Movies About CURRENT POLITICIANS. It's Almost PROPAGANDA
Jun 2, 2005 12:36 PM
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Michael Moore is a desperate man who can see what is happening in this country. He made the movie to get others to see what is happening in this country. Don't liken bushie to McCain. bushie isn't fit to wipe McCain's shoes.
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idamag
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Re: I Respect McCain, But I Don't Like Movies About CURRENT POLITICIANS. It's Almost PROPAGANDA
Jun 2, 2005 12:34 PM
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McCain is a wonderful man. I have a lot of respect for him. I also think the movie might be campaigning for Republicans to win in the next election.
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bama4mccain2000
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Re: I Respect McCain, But I Don't Like Movies About CURRENT POLITICIANS. It's Almost PROPAGANDA
May 31, 2005 8:13 PM
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As someone who helped with the 2000 campaign, I disagree with your theory. Senator McCain is the most honest politician I have ever dealt with. Our rules in the campaign were very strict in all respects from contributions to what was said to the press. A campaign volunteer was terminated for speaking poorly of then George W. Bush. The rules of McCain-Feingold were followed to the letter before it ever came into being. Senator McCain has served his country and its people his whole adult life. If someone chooses to make a movie about it, it is not propaganda. Our young people as well as the rest of the population need an education about service to something bigger than themselves, about sacrifice and what real heroes are.
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big_mike
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Re: I Respect McCain, But I Don't Like Movies About CURRENT POLITICIANS. It's Almost PROPAGANDA
May 31, 2005 5:40 PM
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You wrote: "don't shove it in people's faces on MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND. This is SICK!! It's like POLITICAL PORNOGRAPHY!!!" I'm interested to know your opinion of 'Fahrenheit 911' - was that movie "SICK...POLITICAL PORNOGRAPHY"? Memorial Day Weekend is the perfect time to remember fallen comrades.
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flntny
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Re: I Respect McCain, But I Don't Like Movies About CURRENT POLITICIANS. It's Almost PROPAGANDA
May 31, 2005 11:20 AM
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his chances of winning a nomination in the republican party are slim to none and he knows it. he seems to feel his best contribution is to be a voice for honesty and moderate positions.
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criggs
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Re: I Respect McCain, But I Don't Like Movies About CURRENT POLITICIANS. It's Almost PROPAGANDA
May 31, 2005 2:37 AM
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> For you to call this > sick borders on treason. You know, I have a favorable opinion of McCain, and might even vote for him if the Democrats nominate an anti-reform budget-busting Social Security ostrich-head like Hillary (though I like McCain's sidekick Feingold as well as Dean). But I really think, J.S., that you need to look not only at McCain's record as a POW but his political record since. American democracy believes in the principle of free speech and in the principle of equality. And McCain himself is a passionate follower of that philosophy. Just look at the people with whom he's worked in the course of his Senate career. He has worked with arch-conservative Phil Gramm against the pork barrel. He has worked with centrist Joe Lieberman on global warming. He has worked with maverick populist Russ Feingold on campaign finance reform. He is working with the liberal's liberal Ted Kennedy on immigration reform. Do you think you'd ever hear McCain accuse someone of treason just because he happened to disagree with someone? Shame.
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MotherT
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Re: I Respect McCain, But I Don't Like Movies About CURRENT POLITICIANS. It's Almost PROPAGANDA
May 31, 2005 12:00 AM
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Why should we penalize McCain by making people wait to see his story? He is serving his country as we speak as a Senator. Being Senator is not a "prize". It is a job if it is done correctly. I personally want to know everything I can about all our politicians, especially one that may run for the presidency. I actually read John's book years ago, but seeing it in a movie is great. By getting his military stint out in the open prior to his running again, maybe there won't be the fiasco as there was with Kerry and Bush. Everyone will have ample time to know what went on while he was a POW. But I am sure someone somewhere will make up something stupid to say about his being a POW. At least it won't be the Bush people this time. They have had their turn. If you think telling the a story is propoganda, you need to look up the definition of the word. The Vietnam vets know propoganda. The protesting back in the states was what the Viet Cong used to show their POWs that America had abandoned them.
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Army_Vet
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Re: I Respect McCain, But I Don't Like Movies About CURRENT POLITICIANS. It's Almost PROPAGANDA
May 30, 2005 10:57 PM
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Thank you for your selfless service to our country. As a disabled vet, I salute you. May the strength of men like Sen. Mc Cain help you and your family through this trying time. May God grant you a safe return.
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