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pencil
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Re: Why does it have to be about "Religion?"
Jul 18, 2006 3:01 PM
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What? bye
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dianek1946
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Re: Why does it have to be about "Religion?"
Apr 28, 2006 1:16 AM
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Whydoes this haveto be about religion. it does not haveto be about religion allthe time. it is nice to have Religion. it should depend on the person. i do belivein God alot. i had 2 close calls and i do beliveGod help me with them. by Diane kunz
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dantheman19
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Re: Why does it have to be about "Religion?"
Apr 26, 2006 9:35 AM
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Still discerning and planning "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him not perish but may have eternal life" -John 3:16
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pastorwife07
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Re: Why does it have to be about "Religion?"
Apr 25, 2006 11:08 PM
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dantheman19, First, if I have said something to offend you, I apoligize. I think becoming a priest is one of the most unselfish, and undeserving things a man can do. And I have nothing but respect for the Catholic religion, or its followers. My husbands entire family is Catholic, and I have learned alot over the years. But as a young women, the Catholic religion scared me, actually ALL religion scared me because I wasnt raised with ANY religion. If a person truely wants to learn more about Christ and God, they need to be open to everyones ideas, and listen, not judge or as you say 'push scripture' on anyone. Are you still planning on becoming a priest?
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pastorwife07
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Re: Why does it have to be about "Religion?"
Apr 25, 2006 11:01 PM
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FrPeek, Leaving the Catholic church I beleive was hard for my husband, and he has told me before, many times, that if I would of turned Catholic, he would of stayed Catholic. I grew up in a non-christian home, with no religion at all, no teaching of Christ or anything, so when I was 20 years old, the Catholic church scared me to death! My in-laws always invited me to church with them, in hopes that I would join, and I did go and continue to go with them when we are home in Minnesota. But there are things about the Catholic church that I don't agree with, but I respect it very much, and would never bash it or criticize it. Everyone is entitiled to there religous beliefs, and we ALL think that ours is the best and correct one. One of the first things that I noticed and fell in love with, was my husbands faith and spirituality. I had never met anyone who had so much trust, faith, and belief. And by God's grace and mercy, he opened my heart, and for that I am a child of God forever.
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dantheman19
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Re: Why does it have to be about "Religion?"
Apr 25, 2006 9:27 PM
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Well Pastorwife07 I neve met a seriously nice protestant I always met fundamentalist and people that would argue with the catholic one women yell from teh bus station that the Pope is the devil, catholic church is the chruch of the devil. I never came ot the conclusion that all protestant were bible thumperers but I never met one that wouldn't argue with me until I work at blessings. Sometimes customers would ask what I was planning to do relutantly I said priest. And you should see the joy in their ideas I said Catholic Obviously and you know what they say I'll pray for you. After that I knew those you would argue with me and would push scriptre were misleading the true church of Christ and that they were the ones hurting the church. "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him not perish but may have eternal life" -John 3:16
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FrJosephPeek
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Re: Why does it have to be about "Religion?"
Apr 25, 2006 4:09 PM
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A thought about humility; If in relation to one I have been given more then why haven't I done more to help him lovingly? If in relation to one given more than me then why haven't I rejoiced in his goodness and seek to imitate his virtue more? If in relation to one equally gifted, why do I think my solution is better. So, though differently gifted, we must stand, not in comparison to others, but in comparison to the Almighty God and his Son, Jesus, and in humility beg for His mercy. Share the Truth as you know Him, but in love, recognizing the fact that faith is a gift of God in grace, not something we do ourselves, though we strive to be open to the gift. The difficulty for a Catholic who in conscience believes that he is called to leave the Chruch, is that he must struggle with leaving "the fullness of the faith handed down by the Apostles." That is a crisis in faith that I, thank God, have not had to undergo. Although, I objectively would disagree about leaving the Catholic Church, I would listen quietly if your husband was to tell about his struggle. I would learn more about God, about humanity, and about myself by merely listening. Thank you for loving this man who despite his struggles (we all have them - including our zealots!) continues to seek to serve Jesus Christ.
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FrJosephPeek
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Re: Why does it have to be about "Religion?"
Apr 25, 2006 3:58 PM
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pastorwife, There is a difference between having the best car and knowing how to drive it well. If you are not a good driver chances are that a better driver in a not so qualified car will win the race. Yes, as Catholids we believe that in Christ and in His Church, the one bride, we have in grace been given the fullness of the truth although His truth exists to different degrees in all societies and creation. The bigger question is what are we doing with it?! Have we given ourselves fully to him in worship and in loving service to others. That is where many protestants put us Ctholics to shame. To him who has been given much, much will be expected. Feel free to share your faith experiences with me and I with you, then with Jesus' mother Mary we can ponder these things in our hearts.
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pastorwife07
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Re: Why does it have to be about "Religion?"
Apr 25, 2006 11:43 AM
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I am glad that you came to that conclusion that protestants are not just 'bible thumping' people as you put it. I am Lutheran-Missouri Synod and proud of my religion, and our love for Christ is deep, profound, and faithful. I wonder though what made you think that if you weren't Catholic, you didnt love Christ? My husband is in the seminary right now, and will be ordained, God willing, in 2007, and he is Christ centered and filled with God, and very devout to and about his religion, and when he preaches it is a moving experience for him and for the congregation. And I agree that we are to evangalize to those who dont know Christ, or the love he shows us everyday. Argueing about who's religion is best is small, petty, and pompus.
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dantheman19
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Re: Why does it have to be about "Religion?"
Apr 25, 2006 9:05 AM
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same with you I use to think all protestants were just bible thumping people who did nothing but bother catholic but I learn that they want to love Christ as much as Catholic do. I know a young gentlemen who is going to be a pastor for a Baptist church and I was happy to see that. I knew he was filled with God and very devout to his religion so I'm happy that the Baptists will have a wonderful gift of this man's precheing(Sp?). I believe we are all called to evangalist those who have not heard of God or no the wonders of Christ not to argue my religion is more right than your. "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him not perish but may have eternal life" -John 3:16
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nonCatholic
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Re: Why does it have to be about "Religion?"
Apr 25, 2006 2:45 AM
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I agree with you. I am not and have never been Catholic, and I don't expect that I ever will be. To me, though, that isn't the issue. I was immensely impressed by all four young men (by Steve especially) on this show. No matter what their final decisions were, it is obvious from their sense of purpose and from the way they actively strive every day to determine what God wants for them that these are good men who love both God and the people around them. Whether Catholic or not, the world can certainly use more men (and women) like that, and I pray every day that we are all inspired to do a little more, to be a little better, and to work a little harder for the kind of purpose and love they have. Thank God for these young men and for the way they have reminded the world of all the good that can be found in the Catholic faith, especially in light of the problems the Church has been having lately. Although I never really thought negatively of Catholics in the past, because of this show I will now always think of Catholics as good, humble people who strive to do God's will -- and any Catholic who does otherwise is only representative of him/herself (the same goes for any other religion, too!). People who use a show like this as an excuse to be anything other than loving and charitable to those around them, as an excuse to bash or belittle the beliefs or faith of others, would have found excuses to do that anyway. On the other hand, I believe that wherever people find their own faith and goodness and light, they should take it and use it to make the world a better place. These young men are obviously doing that, and my life is better for having seen and heard their stories. I imagine that there are many other people out there who will see this show and find a faith they had forgotten or never had, Catholic or otherwise, which will lead to so many acts of service and love that will, in turn, change the lives of even more people. Dan, Joe, Steve, and Mike may never really know how much good they have done just by trying to do good and by letting us watch them in the process.
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FrJosephPeek
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Re: Why does it have to be about "Religion?"
Apr 24, 2006 12:13 AM
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Justice is the virtue of giving the other what is properly due them. Religion is the virtue of Justice in relation to God, giving him his due. As you rightly pointed out, that is all these young men are doing. "Now we see him through a veil, then we shall see him face to face."
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jeremysmom
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Why does it have to be about "Religion?"
Apr 23, 2006 11:37 PM
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People are always bringing religion into things when the truth is (and the only thing that matters)is that we love and serve God to the best of our abilities. I don't know what every "religion"believes but,I do know that God loves me and wants me to serve Him. I feel like that is all that they young men are trying to do. Don't we all search for that in our lives???
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