Bail Out- Dallas episode

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Last Post Aug 3, 2009 10:23 AM by: aceofhearts2008
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Re: Bail Out- Dallas episode

Aug 3, 2009 10:23 AM
I had occasion to deal with detective Penrod many
years ago when a dear friend was killed. I found him
to be not only a top-notch detective but a very caring
human being. With law enforcement getting a black
eye due to the dirty cops on the force it is nice to know that there are still officers of integrety such as Dets. Penrod & Marston [ who I havent seen on the show ]

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suiseb
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Re: Bail Out- Dallas episode

Aug 2, 2009 5:15 PM
ON July 22nd 2009 Callie Marshall was sentence to 60 yrs in Prison. She will be eligible for parole after 30 yrs .The same rules apply to 60 yrs as they do to life sentence. So the jurors took her life just the way she took my sons life. Michael Richardson , Jesse Vasquez pleaded guilty to felony murder and both recieved 15yrs,Isaac Hernandez pleaded guilty to murder and recieved 10 yrs we still have one more to be sentence .It has been very hard especially Callie trail was difficult but I knew Justice had to be done. We are very pleased with our justice system. Our Detectives Penrod, Sayers,and our Prosecuters Birmingham and Mindy were owesome and did a wonderful job. I think Detective Penrod is the best he has taken Daniels place in my heart.You see Daniel will be a part of us forever but I cannot touch,or hug him anymore and I can hug Detective Penrod.And First 48 is not just a TV show, to me it is a healing tool , they are some Special People in our Lives who have been apart of our tragedy and the Barron Family is very greatful and we cannot exprise that enough. Thank you First 48 without you we would not know all the work that our law enforcement does and my hope is that our young generation knows that if you commet a crime you have to pay for it to.
hazel1964
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Re: Bail Out- Dallas episode

Apr 5, 2009 10:48 AM
To you, SusieB and everyone else who has had a family member murdered ... After my daddy's murder, it took a long time before I realized that I had to stop mourning his death in my head and start remembering his LIFE in my heart in order to start healing. It will never go away, but I promise you, you will get a little easier if you can find the courage to laugh at the memories. I have found over the years, that the more I talk about the funny times, I am also keeping the memories alive and it has brought me comfort to tell people what an incredibly brave and amazing man he was. I pass on his teachings as a man and a police officer.
I pray for you all to find some comfort soon.

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suiseb
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Re: Bail Out- Dallas episode

Apr 3, 2009 6:49 PM
Today Terome Omar Richardson was sentenced to Life in prison for my sons death after a long week Trail there was some justice done even though we wanted Capitol murder he was still sentenced to Life yes it is very hard to share our stories but through my greiving conseling I have learned that the best therapy for healing is to talk about it and with every family that has lost a loved one it is different and lets not forget it was Callie's idea. Its her turn next.First 48 has giving me the opportunity to see how many other familys have had to go through the same thing we are going through it never ends and some say it gets better it doesnt you just learn to live with it and on daily bases find a new way of coping.
elitemember
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Re: Bail Out- Dallas episode

Apr 2, 2009 4:50 PM
First I would like to say that many times, when reading and posting comments on forums like this when hardly ever get any insight from victims family members, I applaud you both for sharing your stories with us, I know it must be difficult during all these sad times.

I would like to give my opinion, and I hope I don’t offend anyone at all. Daniel and I had mutual friends in high school, I never saw him after high school, but hearing this story did sadden me and I have been following it since. I did not watch the episode. I am shocked that so many people defended Callie, it actually made me sick to my stomach. I realize that she was a mother, a friend, a daughter; I realize there were a lot of people cared for her. I feel bad for her children. But this does not excuse her from her actions. Mrs. Barron made a valid point that she did not call 9-1-1 after the crime. Say what you want about those moments immediately after crime, she could have feared for her own life, etc, but she should have gone to the police after that happened. She chose not to, I assume, hoping she would not get caught. Another example of poor judgment. She man have been threatened and her family may have been threatened as well, and that puts her in a tough situation, but the RIGHT thing to do was go to the police. I don’t know if she was threatened, I say that as a hypothetical for those who might feel they need to defend her. I realize some people hang with the wrong people and end up in the wrong place at the wrong time. That happens and it is sad. But there also many young people who make the RIGHT decision. Let’s not ignore the fact that Callie was riding with five men who were armed. She might not have wanted someone to get murdered, but she did not walk away from that situation. She made the decision to stay with those armed people. This isn’t the first time something like this happened, I bet there are thousand and thousands of times when young people, or people in general start to put themselves in a position like that, but have enough sense to realize the consequences and walk away. We do not know if the reports by the media are accurate or not, if she planned it out or not, the courts will decide. We do know the facts; she was with the people who were armed. Ask yourself as a law abiding citizen, would you ever put yourself in that situation? Would you expect your loved ones to do it? If you know the answers to that, and you understand the consequences, then you can see why Callie should be punished for her mistakes. I am sure at some point there were discussions of robbing someone, regardless if she initiated them or not, and that was enough for any person who understands right from wrong to get out of that situation. Callie may have been young and naïve, but that does not excuse what she was involved in. She knowingly rode around with armed individuals who at some point plotted to rob someone and she did not intervene to try and stop it or go to police after it happened. Bad decisions on her part, and unfortunately for sake of the love she receives from her family, those mistakes are too major to let her live a normal life. Her poor decisions will lead her to be incarcerated for a very long time and deservedly so. As for Daniel Barron, he will get a bad rap as being a drug dealer. He may or may not have been that. The facts point to him being involved in things he shouldn’t. He too made poor decisions regarding his life. Eventually those decision lead to his death. The difference is that evil people decided his fate. He never had opportunity to change his life. We do not know that he would of, but for the better of our society, we hope all drug dealers, addicts, criminals, etc have the opportunity to turn their lives around. That’s what we want for everyone, for people to change so we can all live in a safer community. And for those that can not change, we hope that our judicial system will take them of the streets. I for one do not wish death on those individuals, I hope they change or end up and jail. He never had the opportunity because 6 people decided they wanted to rob and kill him for their own gain.
suiseb
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Re: Bail Out- Dallas episode

Feb 6, 2009 6:24 PM
Thanks for responding yes the facts are as the show protrayed them, and we did not know these indivituals,the guy that said that he lived with my son it is the other way around my son had just moved in with him two weeks before this happened. He had always lived with us We had gone to that house that day because we wanted him to come back home because my husband has been over there to see him and he didnt think that was a place we wanted him to be but he was not there so we left and never saw our son alive again. And I cannot comment yet in details but when it is all over I will post the details and yes Callie was the one needing money to Bail her boyfriend out .And yes the show is honest .We are still grieving and will grieve forever. the detectives and first 48 are very compationate to the victims family and they help bring some closer to our lost.We go to court very soon with the shooter and we are praying for justice. Yes we watched the show as a family we came together and used it as part of our healing process.We have a very close and loving family and together we are overcoming our loss.
kathouse1
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Re: Bail Out- Dallas episode

Feb 5, 2009 11:06 PM
I wanted to reply to your first statement left about the death of your son but then I decided maybe I should not because of the grieving process you must go through. I saw that you posted again after the Brandon1994 comment. Your comments to that posting have urged me to speak with you. First of all I am sorry that your son lost his life. You tell Brandon1994 that you know the facts of this case. Are they as the first 48 protrayed them? I have looked into the circumstances of this case and watched this episode several times. I would like to know if you have watched the episode in it entirety? I saw the part where you were sitting in the room at the table with which I assume were your family members. Did the detective tell you that the shooter in this case confessed to killing your son? Didn't he say that he knew your son? I was just wondering if the African American suspect that told the police he shot your son was familar to you. He apparantely knew your son because that is what the detective said during the episode. I believe that during the questioning of the female suspect she said the same thing that the shooter knew him. I was also wondering about the guy who said he lived with your son. I am concerned because I noticed all of the postings from the beginning seeming to target the female suspect as the bad person but the episode I saw portrayed the other suspect as the person that committed the crime. I mean no disrespect in anyway to you or your family and again I am sorry for your loss. I am just curious about the human response to what they see on TV.
suiseb
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Re: Bail Out- Dallas episode

Jan 31, 2009 10:53 PM
Thank you for your prayers, but my son is gone because your sister wanted money to Bail her boyfriend out of jail for Christmas so yes she knew what she was getting herself into maybe your family doesnt know all the facts but we do.Like I said before her place was to be with her babys not the streets. I understand that you support her she is your sister. Well Im Daniel mom and since Dec.15 th 2007 we Prayed for Justice and we know thats what will happen. You can never understand everything my family has encountered since that day they turned our world upside down,for his Birthday,for Christmas we had to decorate his graveside ,we hurt everyday emotionally with feelings that your sister and 5 others took a part in. So yes I want them to pay for what they did to Daniel and our family.
brandon1984
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Re: Bail Out- Dallas episode

Jan 28, 2009 2:32 PM
You know I look at this and I read all that everyone has to say. Everyone has there own opinion on what they watched on the show and how they put it. I haven’t seen the show nor will I watch it, but I will say that I know callie I lived with her all her life I know the real callie she is my sister. She wouldn’t do something like that knowingly not even close now saying that I know that people going to start saying im crazy and how could I be so dumb in thinking she had nothing to do with what happened. Go ahead and say it but it’s the truth she has had a ruff time in her life and has made some friends that she shouldn’t have but she does let people talk her into things. I wasn’t there or even in this country when it happened so I don’t know all that happened. I love my sister and will always be by her side no matter what and I know her well enough to know that if she had any clue as to what her friends were really there to do she wouldn’t have went. I don’t know what else to really say but that if any of you have any remorse what so ever for any of the families try and get all the facts first. Im sorry for the hurt and pain that Daniel Barron’s family has had my prayers are with you as with my family and sister.
susieb
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Re: Bail Out- Dallas episode

Sep 12, 2008 9:54 AM
Yes I am Daniel Barron mother here I am again in the mist of all the pain defending my son who was battleling the enemy of drug use he was not a drug dealer I dare someone suggest that no intervention had taken place if only you knew how much Love and support we gave but only a addict knows the pain of drug use. And yes I do know both sides of the story I have all the information which justice will prevail in court .If any of the six are so innocent and were there at the wrong time or with the wrong people why not make the 911 call and try to save my sons life . If only they knew what they have done to a loving and caring family and yes what was Callie doing roaming the streets her place should have been with her babys where only a loving mother would be. You will be surprised when all the true facts come out in court.Also my son will never have a chance to be redeemed they took that away from him. Thanks to all the good people who have a heart and understand our lost. To the person who wrote that my son was a drug dealer and selling to our kids thats how I feel about the killers who took my sons life they wont ever kill again and put another family throught what we are going throught. Dont forget drug dealers dont just have 7 dollars in thier pockets. The same here dont judge without facts . My son will forever be in our Lives and Hearts he will never be forgotten we Love and miss him so much These people committed a senseless act. The pain of wanting to touch him hold him and see him is unbearable if only they knew.This is no laughing matter it is very serious.
michaelsean
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Re: Bail Out- Dallas episode

Aug 13, 2008 9:11 AM
Well it's not just being present. You have to have in some way participated in the crime, and it's pretty much that way in all the states. It's part of the felony murder laws. If someone dies while you are committing a felony, you can and often will be charged with murder. That includes someone having a heart attack and dying due to the stress. In that situation, nobody pulled a trigger. Whether you intend to hurt someone or not, violence is a forseeable event.

I don't know if you remember a First 48 in Cincinnati where two kids tried to rob a street vendor, and the vendor ended up shooting and killing one of the thiefs. His partner in crime was charged with first degree murder. Now that's tough.
kathouse1
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Re: Bail Out- Dallas episode

Aug 13, 2008 12:17 AM
I would like to comment about your response to Alizatruth. You are correct when you say that a person does not have to pull a trigger to be charged with capital murder. This is because of a Texas law call "Law of Parties". I posted some information about this law on another subject site called "Repulsed by tonight's episode/crooked justice system". It seems that under this law all you have to do is be present with someone and if they kill someone its the same as you pulling the trigger. This to me is preposterous and the law should be looked at by the states representatives. I have researched some of the convictions in Texas and it is outrageous the number of inmates on death row that never hurt anyone and never had any intention of anyone getting hurt. The state of Texas apparently uses this law quite often to fit their needs. This law should be abolished in my opinion.
michaelsean
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Re: Bail Out- Dallas episode

Aug 12, 2008 11:08 AM
You don't have to pull the trigger to be convicted of capital murder. Participation in a crime where someone is killed is all it takes. You can even be charged if it's your partner in crime who is killed.

And yes the prosecutor has to prove his case, but I'm not a prosecutor. I'm free to make my own judgments.
Alizatruth
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Re: Bail Out- Dallas episode

Aug 11, 2008 9:36 PM
True she was involved in a crime but to what extent? I saw this episode and I could barely make out what she was saying but I know I did not hear her confess to murdering someone. I never heard her say anything close to that. I did hear her say that when the victim opened the door that the male suspect started shooting.

Did she say she was dragged into it? I did not hear her say either she was or she wasn't. I heard her say that the male suspect knew someone he could get money from. I also heard the detective tell the victims family that the male suspect had arranged the robbery and that the male suspect knew the victim.

I believe if someone is saying she is innocent then they mean of capital murder since she did not actually shoot the victim. She really did not tell much about her involvement, I replayed the episode after seeing your post and still I just don't hear to much about her involvement.

So I guess innocent until proven guilty is just a saying until you get to court. It's really guilty until the court proves your innocent. I believe that the prosecutor has to prove his case of guilt. The burden of proof is on the state not the other way around.
michaelsean
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Re: Bail Out- Dallas episode

Aug 11, 2008 5:48 PM
A couple of things. For all you talking about how we can't know callie, we know one thing. She was involved in a crime where someone was murdered, and I don't care what they edited out, they kept in the part where she confessed. Kind of hard to get around that.

And she didn't get dragged into anything. She willingly went along, and when you are going to rob a drug dealer, gunplay is a very forseeable event.

i have no idea what some are saying when you tell us we will see she is innocent. Did you miss the whole part where she told of her involvement?

Oh and innocent until proven guilty is for the courtroom.
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