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pixiechic34
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Re: Did A&E give up on Horatio?
Aug 2, 2008 3:07 PM
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use the horatio hornblower poll VOTE !~ a& E should listen to its viewers
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itsourduty
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Re: Want More Hornblower?
Oct 2, 2005 6:47 PM
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I agree with all in this strand. Its the first time I have felt strongly enough to have contacted a TV company or joined a forum. The next part of the HH story would certainly make a cracking episode or two and its particularly frustrating to have the series stop at that point. Although I enjoyed the Peck movie I agree with Carronade that the tv series has handled the material superbly. This is too good a series to let it go without a fight so we just have to keep the pressure up. Well done to usHHfan and others for organising the petition and postcard drive etc  If they can bring Sharp back after so many years there is hope for HH! You may all know of this site already but for any newbees like myself I found it very informative re the Foster books - Ha H'm. The Hornblower Page. Cheers itsourduty
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Julie44
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Re: Want More Hornblower?
Sep 30, 2005 11:18 AM
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I just finished the 3 books ending with "Flying Colors" and thought as I read through what absolutely perfect material this is for movies. Bush losing his foot, their escape down the river, the winter spent in the Chateau snuggling up to the daughter in law - as you say, a lot there for the ladies! There is also mention of Pellew occasionally throughout so I would think we could keep the wonderful Lindsay in for quite some time, maybe not on the line, but at least accessible to HH for counsel, etc. etc. "Dream on MacDuff" says I, but what a wealth of stories here going unused, pitiful........Julie
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usHHfan
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Re: Want More Hornblower?
Sep 29, 2005 8:52 PM
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Great to hear that you're going to participate in the postcard drive, kencl! If you're interested, I've got a list of all the Hornblower books as well as which of the A&E movies incorporated elements of which novels on my website here. And if we included the short stories, we could take the Hornblower series up to the time Horatio's seventy! (Or is that asking a bit much...?  ) -uHf -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "D@mn it, man," said Hornblower, "would anyone out of Bedlam say a thing like that--far less write it?" --Hornblower and the Atropos
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kencl
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Re: Want More Hornblower?
Sep 29, 2005 7:51 PM
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Glad I asked about the book count. I had been assuming 1 book per DVD. What you're saying sounds more like 1 book per series (yippie!). Picked up the post cards. Now off to write something influential.
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Carronade
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Re: Want More Hornblower?
Sep 29, 2005 12:52 PM
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Actually there are seven more Hornblower books (eight if you count the unfinished Hornblower During the Crisis). I think the three which form the original Captain Horatio Hornblower trilogy would make excellent films. These three were mashed into the two-hour Gregory Peck movie in 1951. While I enjoy the movie, it inevitably lost a lot of material and also had a few just plain silly scenes. One great thing about the A&E versions is that they expanded on the originals. I would love to see a complete treatment of Hornblower's adventures with El Supremo, the long fight with the Natividad, his escape from France, etc. This was also the phase in his life when he had the most romantic interests (and, for the ladies, reported aboard the Sutherland stark naked on one occasion). One good point is that Horatio is distinctly older at that point in his career, so it would be easy for Ioan and company to pick up the saga a few years from now.
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kencl
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Re: Want More Hornblower?
Sep 29, 2005 7:42 AM
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Great idea about the post cards. I'll be sending one to each producer tomorrow. I'm going to tell them how much I enjoyed the series to date, and then ask them to finish the last 3 (that's right isn't it, there's 3 books left?) as 1 final series. I figure we'll be extremely lucky if we manage to get Hornblower back on the open seas, so may as well go for the whole shot! Barring that I'm going to ask them to relinquish the productions rights. This'll be the first time I've felt strongly enough to write to a television station about anything, so maybe I'll mention that too...
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Julie44
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Re: Did A&E give up on Horatio?
Aug 15, 2005 9:08 AM
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Thanks "itsourduty." Yes, I have all the Foyle's War episodes. In fact I bought an all region DVD player so that I could get them sooner.  The last series has not even been shown over here yet and I got them way back last winter sometime. Anyway, as for HH, it's true that these period pieces, including Foyle, cost a lot to produce, but they seem to be what thinking people in this day and age want, harking back to simpler times when there was little doubt about loyalty and justice, none of the dithering we see today. I will be bereft if we don't get more HH (especially Robert Lindsey) :p but I suppose we must be grateful for what we have as we continue our badgering for more of these fabulous stories. Julie "I'll get there if I have to row myself!" Capt. Pellew in "The Wrong War"
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Madeline5
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Re: Did A&E give up on Horatio?
Aug 13, 2005 12:18 PM
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OK, I did a little searching and found that up to August 2004? Delia Fine was the Vice President of Film, Drama and Performing Arts at A&E Television Network. I'm not sure how current this is, but I think she is the Executive Producer at A&E, but I might not have up to date info. I guess there was a corporate shake up or restructuring sometime in 2004. Remember that A&E is a subsidy of ABC/Disney. From an former article when she was VP of Film... "Delia Fine, A&E's VP of film, drama and performing arts, oversees many of these projects with her five-person department, and talks to her U.K. counterparts, be they at the BBC, Granada or Channel Four, early on. Discussions continue during development before A&E signs on. Fine also has her say on writers, cast and other talent. "If you don't have a shared vision, it can all end in tears," says the net's 15-year vet. Jane Tranter, head of drama at the BBC, has worked with A&E for five years, beginning with "Lorna Doone." Partnering with A&E has been crucial to the re-emergence of classic adaptations and not just for the financing that raises production values, she notes. "We've been able to make them (classic adaptations) to a certain standard. It's critical to engage audiences. There is the shared desire of BBC and A&E to make classics accessible to audiences, books that most people wouldn't think of taking off shelves and reading." And from an article 1999, "From Variety 6/1999 Another player with possible Emmy contenders is A&E, which has, if occasional viewers haven't noticed, branched out beyond its regular ratings-grabber "Biography." And while that bio machine keeps chugging along, the net has provided serious challenges in other categories. It's four-part presentation of C.S. Forester's "Horatio Hornblower" may have seemed like a risky move -- multi-episode, period dramas are a hard sell without advertising saturation -- but the move paid off with a solid cable-universe rating. More importantly, it symbolized the network's commitment to growth, as did its Oscar-nominated docu "The Farm: Angola, USA,' which won the 1998 Sundance Film Festival's Grand Jury top honors, and "Dash and Lilly." "Our slate is a result of substantial competition," says Delia Fine, A&E's VP of film, drama and performing arts. "And, Emmy or not, that's always good for programming." All I know is that as of Jan 8, 2004 Delia Fine served as the executive producer for A&E Network. Perhaps when her job was "Restructured" she was stripped of some power and influence as to programming suggestions (like making more HH!) as she had in her former position as VP of programming. Your guess is as good as mine. All that I know, is that there is a lot more crap on A&E and less good quality programming that initially earned them emmy awards and the good reputation they are living off of today. Maddy
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Madeline5
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Re: Did A&E give up on Horatio?
Aug 13, 2005 9:59 AM
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A year or so ago, I thought I heard that Delia was no longer in association with HH as the executive producer. I am sure she is working on other films which most likely are financed or bought by A&E. The news that she was booted from HH was never confirmed in an article that I can recall, but I do remember people discussing it about a year or so ago. Maybe someone at Horatians recalls the particulars. I think maybe A&E is holding on to the rights to make future HH films, and are not telling Ioan the real deal because they may have to replace him as Horatio, if he's too busy with his career in feature films. That's just a guess. They're keeping their options open. A&E would also have to pay him top scale, I would think, now that he's become a bigger star. Those are my guesses. Maddy
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men2xcess
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Re: Did A&E give up on Horatio?
Aug 13, 2005 12:34 AM
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It is a bummer if they have given up on HH...this quality programming is what kept me coming back...I will just have to settle for reading the books over and over again, and watching the DVD's... When A and E's mgmnt finally smell the coffee maybe they will wake up...Is it more important to go after a new client base at the risk of losing the ones you got... Bad Business Decision... If you like this kind of adventure story.. I can recommend Alexander Kents "Bolitho Series" 26 novels and still writing... another series of great stories looking for a producer to turn them into movies... Check them out...
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itsourduty
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Re: Did A&E give up on Horatio?
Aug 12, 2005 3:52 PM
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Hi Julie If you liked the channel islands thing try Foyle's War shown on ITV here and on masterpiece theatre in the states (I think). Its about the WWII home front and brilliantly done. In the absence of HH I'm hooked on this. Not so much action as HH but great period detective if you like that sort of thing. You might catch 'hobbs' in great form on a BBC production of Vanity Fair some years ago. Cheers
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Julie44
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Re: Did A&E give up on Horatio?
Aug 12, 2005 2:47 PM
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Thanks for the nice welcome. I have been on several boards over the years, mostly to do with basset hounds.  A friend and I have been discussing this and we have come to the conclusion that without a doubt the Brits do the best quality shows. I know this is an A&E production, but is basically all British actors. The combination of American money and the British talent can't be beat. A&E is really going to the dogs if they intend to appease the lowest common denominator with those trashy reality shows.  There is only one other production that ever affected me to such as extent and that was "Island at War" last winter with Philip Glenister (Hobbs in HH). He was magnificent as the German Commandant of the Channel Islands. But I have to say, Hornblower has eclipsed that. Does anyone know the title of the theme music in HH or was it specially arranged for this production? I find it very haunting...and lovely, and I can't get it out of my head most of the time :x Julie
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itsourduty
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Re: Did A&E give up on Horatio?
Aug 11, 2005 6:16 PM
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News of latest Sharp series from guess who? Celtic Picture Palace - only the makers of Hornblower! If they can make a new Sharp after all this time there is hope for HH yet. Just looking at all the great pics of the Trafalgar celebrations - A few years ago the Grand Turk visited Dundee (city of Scott's ship the Discovery)and we were able to get on board - what a thrill! Great news about the petition. Cheers from the true home of the Cutty Sark!
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helo-rn
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Re: Did A&E give up on Horatio?
Aug 9, 2005 10:39 AM
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To the Hornblower community: Don't give up yet!!! Although A&E has decided to remove the "A" (art) from their programing, we do not need to stop telling them that we want more Hornblower. YEs, the reality Crap is cheap and Hornblower isn't. But, it's quality and I am sorry but there is nothing quality about that disfunctional guy named Dog. Keep sending messages, lots and lots of messages to this discussion board and remember it's the fans who brought back lots of other TV shows and mini series (FARSCAPE). PS have you looked at what they have on the Arts and ENtertainment channel now days. It's really terrible.
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