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LuReeBa
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Re: Lying to Get a Confession?
Jul 22, 2009 6:44 PM
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My ONLY response would be I WANT A LAWYER. It would have nothing to do with guilt or innocence. Police are there to close cases, not necessarily put the guilty guy away for the crime he committed. I am pro-police and think the system works most of the time. But there are LOTS of cases where the police make the decision about guilt and a suspect from the jump and don't do any more investigating after that. They build their case (and work the evidence) around what they've already decided. Sad, but true.
DNA is helping, but it still happens.
Police can and do lie and mislead (they have done this forever to varying degrees). Is it unethical? Depends on your point of view. Are you a victim or family of a victim? Or a criminal? Depends on your personal truth and if you've ever been a victim OR if you've ever known someone who has been charged (or worse convicted) when they were innocent.
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Dynomoose
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Re: Lying to Get a Confession?
Jan 5, 2009 6:18 PM
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Do any of you remember the show Homicide: Life on the Street? The first couple of seasons were actual cases and techniques used by the detectives in those cases in Baltimore. The xerox machine lie detector? It actually happened.
Police can lie about anything short of reduced sentencing or availability of legal representation when interviewing. And you know what? The system STILL favors the accused.
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Dynomoose
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Re: Lying to Get a Confession?
Jan 5, 2009 6:14 PM
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It is perfectly legal and acceptable for detectives to lie to interviewees.
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ir1coooldude99
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Re: Lying to Get a Confession?
Jan 5, 2009 6:09 PM
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as a young person i was raised to believe that cops are honest and truthful . at 45 yrs of age i know that police are more corrupt than criminals . having never ever been in trouble i fear the day i have to deal with police - they lie at will but feel its ok because they are the police. they make up thier minds weather someone is guilty and go with it .my only answers to police would be "i dont know" and "i dont remember" dont ever trust police, ir1
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AngeldeFuego
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Re: Lying to Get a Confession?
Dec 28, 2008 8:34 PM
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 hmm...I think physical beating could pose some legal issues... Mental games and coercion they are "masters", but physical restraint may be the order of the day, even in the interrogation room. |
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tink1024
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Re: Lying to Get a Confession?
Dec 26, 2008 9:47 AM
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Please,lying is one of the bigger parts of being a cop and who cares if the cops beat a confession out of some one? The cops certainly dont. At the end of the day the police,no matter what level (feds/state/local), can and will do whatever it takes to do whatever they need to do or want to do.
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belfegore_insider
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Re: Lying to Get a Confession?
Dec 23, 2008 9:13 AM
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I googled it, I found that basically the police can use tricks to get the witness to talk AND get a suspect to confess as long as they are not physically coerced into the confession.
In Florida, a guy wanted a new trial stating that the police tricked him into an involuntary confession. The supreme court denied a new trial because the suspect was read his miranda rights, did not ask to leave, did not ask for a lawyer nor ask them to stop questioning him and he was not physically coerced into the confession.
In the case you mentioned, looks like they knew who the perp was but needed the witness to come clean and finger him rather than protect him. They used tricks to get it out on the table.
I think its all good. If the truth prevails, how they got there is water under the bridge, unless of course, they beat it out of them, then it wouldn't be cool.
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Califdave
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Lying to Get a Confession?
Dec 22, 2008 8:38 PM
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Last week in Memphis Sergeant Caroline Mason and Sergeant Tony Mullins created a bogus lineup with a phoney circle and confession around the face of one of three suspects. The caption under the picture said that this suspect was the shooter, all of which was fabricated by Mason and Mullins to get him to talk.
The ploy worked beautifully because the suspect, a passenger with no prior criminal record, burst into tears and with great details, named the shooter and the accomplice to the crime. An effective bit of police work; however, is this legal? Could a defense attorney throw this out in court? Can the police give misinformation to get a confession? Is this unethical? Illegal? Please advise.
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