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shiznit75
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Re: Maybe a book that should have stayed a book
Sep 12, 2004 4:52 PM
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I read the book and just finished watching the movie. I personally didn't feel that the previews were misleading but that may be because I read the book. The interviews with Ted Bundy were very creepy. You must allow that this is a movie. I've never seen a movie that followed the book correctly or even at all. I liked how this movie showed the effects on the officers. I've lived in Washington most of my life. Gary Ridgeway and Ted Bundy will always haunt this place.
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dave1
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Re: Maybe a book that should have stayed a book
Sep 12, 2004 4:18 PM
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There's a lot of pros and cons about this show, pros---some saying how good a movie it was, how chilling bundy's character was, how bundy got into the cop's mind etc.Cons----some saying how misleading the name was, how much it was like some book that was written and many other reasons I guess many of you aren't old enough to go back in time to the real Bundy situation. 1---no one had to coax Bundy into helping the police. He was more than willing to do it because he never liked the idea that there was another person out there that might be actually killing more people than him. He was very proud of his accomplishments and also felt that he was more intelligent than Ridgeway. Look it up. All factual. 2---Bundy was never handcuffed during any of his interviews with the police.--look at the actual videos. 3---Bundy never smoked. 4 uring those interviews, the police dept. already knew where the victom's of Bundy were located. 6--Bundy underwent extensive physicalogical testing in order to determine whether he was sane and should be held responsible for his actions.----look it up. 7---During all the actual interviews, there was always 2 detectives present and all interviews were video and audio taped. 8---In the movie,the idea was to show that the murderer only killed because they were hookers, in other words, the scum of the earth. The movie words "I'm not a rapist. I'm a murderer" In fact, Ridgeway was into necrophilia. He had sex with the victoms after they were dead.---look it up----factual. There's a few people here that said Bundy's role was 'chilling'. Someone even said they couldn't sleep afterward. Apparently, you've never seen Anthony Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs and Robert Blake in *In Cold Blood*. There are other portrayals of serial killers that would really send chils up your spine and make you lose sleep. That show came on and as it progressed, my wife and I looked at each other and both of us,being the same age and remembering very well, the days of Ted Bundy tried to figure out just where the people of this show were getting their information. 9---During those police interviews with Bundy, besides the detectives, there was only one guard present and he wasn't allowed to be videotaped. There also was a cinematographar controling the video and audio from another room. Just how did this writer get all his so called true facts about what went on?? Look at news archives to find out what went on in that room. The only organization that released any information concerning those interviews was the police dept. Just check out facts before you start saying that this show was factual.
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LadyDi0314
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Re: Maybe a book that should have stayed a book
Sep 11, 2004 8:57 AM
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> movie kind of made you feel bad for Bundy which made > me mad at myself for thinking that way. Hi again, Jess. I, for one, am glad this book didn't stay just a book, otherwise I might never have been introduced to the story! While I agree that this was a disturbing look into the mind of a serial killer (specifically Bundy, and through him, Ridgway), I didn't feel sorry at any point for Bundy. However, I got caught up, once again, in how charming, personable, and down-to-earth he could be. You shouldn't be mad at yourself for how you feel; after all, Bundy's charm made his victims feel at ease with him and that's how he got them! That made me stop and think: if Bundy had ever approached me in the manner he did his victims, would I have become one, too? Living in Boston has made me, over the years, more cautious in general, but this movie definitely made me think about how I might interact with strangers in the future.
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Jess4769
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Re: Maybe a book that should have stayed a book
Sep 11, 2004 12:58 AM
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I agree that this should have stayed a book. I watched this movie last night at 2:00am and I couldn't sleep afterwards I was so disgusted! It was an amazing and interesting movie and I think A&E did a great job, but I really started to feel like Keppel must have. I felt a little TOO close to how Bundy and Ridgway justified their psychotic attacks. The movie kind of made you feel bad for Bundy which made me mad at myself for thinking that way. I'm not gonna lie, when I finally did fall asleep, I had an awful nightmare.
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charleyhorse
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Re: Maybe a book that should have stayed a book
Sep 7, 2004 5:43 PM
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Maybe I don't know enough about movie making...but I "got" the movie AND Bundy's part in the story line AND the "silly" young detective! I don't need to know about office politics to understand about the killers. I have not read the book, but I understood why they story line with Bundy's interviews were there. I also "got it" about the sink shot. What I thought about in that shot was how many times Bundy and the green river killer must have watched blood wash off their hands down the drain...also it made me think about how maybe the detective wanted to wash the "filth" of these predator off himself after having to be in contact with them, and how the mind of the detective is so obsessed with catching these killers that he is never truly "present" in the ordinary day to day happenings. I thought the movie was good, and the acting was excellent.
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LadyDi0314
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Re: Maybe a book that should have stayed a book
Sep 7, 2004 5:25 PM
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I've read a lot of posts saying the ads for this movie were misleading. I must be the only one who didn't think this movie was about the Green River killer. The ads clearly stated the source book -- "Riverman: Ted Bundy and I Hunt for the Green River Killer". I felt it was obviously about the investigation and Ted Bundy's part in it. Maybe that's just me. I haven't read the book, so I can't give an opinion on how it translated into a movie, but I still feel it was a powerful movie. And again, kudos to Cary Elwes' portrayal of Bundy--he had all the mannerisms and speech patterns down. It was chilling to watch.
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CrimeStoryFan
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Maybe a book that should have stayed a book
Sep 7, 2004 3:34 PM
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I understand this is based on a book, The Riverman. However as a movie it did not work. First, your promos for it were misleading, letting anyone who didn't read the book believe that the movie was primarily going to be about Ridgeway and that case. Perhaps a different title would have been better. Second, the dialog and acting was really stilted and often silly, especially the scenes with the young detective. The various subplots were distracting and never fleshed out completely. The backstory was incomplete. The internal politics at the force was hinted at but not explored fully. The editing was ridiculous at times, such as the quick cut to a sink drain at Keppel's house, something completely irrelevant and done just because someone evidently had just gotten their first copy of Final Cut Pro. I'm sorry, but I'd have to give this movie a D+. Sometimes you have to work hard to adapt a book to movie form so that it will work. Sad to say, you guys didn't work hard enough.
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