Who killed the Routier Children

I believe that the mother killed her children. I'd love to be proved wrong, but who would break into a home and make darn sure that 2 little boys were dead, leave an adult to live, and fail to steal anything?
People say over and over that, "I'm a mom and can't imagine killing my kids." Well, I'm a mom too and of course I wouldn't kill my kids. This woman did many other things that I also would never do. Upon "waking" due to either A. a killer on top of her, who she may or may not have been "fighting", or B. her son saying "mommy", and witnessing my children dying, I personally would NOT get on the phone with 911 and begin shrieking about how I messed up the fingerprints on the knife. I would NOT stand in a different room from my children and bleed all over the sink. I would NOT spend time wiping up the blood on the kitchen sink area. I do think I'd remember if it was a "HE" or a "THEY" who broke in.
Who knows why she would do it? It's not a reasonable action, and there won't be a reasonable explanation. My best guess is that she's a histrionic attention-hound, who was depressed, drugged, sick and tired of being a boring old housewife instead of the life of the party. Is that a good reason? Of course not! But what reason would anyone else possibly have to break in just to kill two children?

"One poster mentions mistakes in the AE show. I think they should not be allowed to get away with saying something like "don't pay attention to ae, it's full of mistakes". You say something like that, you need to prove it."

Amen. What exactly are the mistakes that A&E are supposed to have made? What is the basis of your opinion that it was wrong? What sources backed up your belief that it was wrong.

Answer those questions, please, whoever believes they know the answer for everything you believe to be wrong in the A&E program. Obviously, some stranger saying "oh, ignore this whole show because it's full of errors" actually says nothing at all except to ignore the poster. So, if you know of errors in the show, spell them out for us less enlightened ones please.

> I predict this case WILL be retried and she'll be
> acquitted next time.
>


Don't bet on it. If by some chance she was actually acquitted, she'll be rearrested on the court house steps for Devon's murder.

> I believe it was a young boy (15-22 years old) who
> lived at home with his parents. He also lived within
> 3 blocks of the crime scene. He was sexually
> attracted to the mother. Not only did she not know he
> was sexually attracted to her, she probably didn't
> even know him.
>
> The boy went to the house intending to rape her. He
> lost control when he found the boys with her and
> killed them. After realizing what he had done he
> decided he had to kill her, too. He didn't finish
> killing her because only minutes before his thoughts
> were of having sex with her.
>
> It would be easy to develop a profile of a boy who
> could commit a crime like this. This was a planned
> rape that turned into murder.
>
> --
> Edited by hkoester at 07/19/2006 7:17 PM

I'm curious as to who handed him the bread knife from the Routier kitchen so he could cut the screen.

Darlie was not raped, this was not a sexual attack or sex crime. The boys were the targets of the attack.

Chadintex you sound like a crazy person. Why are you jumping all over us for siding with the prosecution? Put down the bottle. Relax! If you want people to have reasonable doubt, you aren't helping out at all. After I read all that you posted it made me believe even more why I believe Darlie is GUILTY. My mind hasn't changed. You are making up excuses for her behavior. Keep it up lady. It's not helping her defense. Why not stick with the facts of the case.

Why didn't the intruders steal her purse and her jewelry? Why were they sitting there undisturbed?
Why didn't she wake up when she heard her boys screaming in pain as they were brutally stabbed to death?
I don't know about you but I can wake out of a deep sleep when my 2 yrs old is coughing or wants water.
I admit I've taken medication that knocked me off my butt and I can't hear a thing in the night. But I can still wake when I hear my baby crying. Darlie wasn't even on medication except diet pills that night.
Why didn't her husband hear all the screaming? Unless Darlie committed the crime of rage against her sons and then she started screaming for help afterwards. I'm just speculating here.

I wish I was that fly on the wall. I wish that someone could have saved the boys. Two innocent boys who didn't deserve to die the way they did. My thoughts are with them and I know now they are in a better place in Heaven with GOD.

Why didn't the dog start barking when the intruder entered the house?
The crime scene investigator said during his walk thru the scene looked staged?
Why wasn't there any blood trail through the garage? Darlie said the intruder ran out the garage. I have so many questions for Darlie that doesn't add up.

I'm still reading the transcript.
I am not a heartless or cold person. I'm a mother of three and I love them very much. I do have compassion for people. Instead of talking trash about people and their points of view stick with the facts and stop making excuses for Darlie. Who knows why she had that death party. I understand people grieve in their own way and I respect that but you have to understand some people who saw the video of the party were outraged. Most people who have lost a loved one who has just been brutally viciously murdered don't usually display that kind of behavior. A friend of mine lost her 5 yrs old niece a long time ago to cancer and they had a funeral for her to celebrate her short life. They had balloons and they played her favorite music from Beauty and the Beast. The burial was done classy. We were glad she was no longer suffering in pain. She died in her sleep. I realize death will come to us all but when someone decides to take a human life in the vicious way the Routier boys died it's senseless and sad. Darlie needs to speak up and tell the truth. I know she will never do that as long as she can get people like you to believe her lies. Sorry but again I think she's a baby killer and greedy and selfish.

This is NOT an attempt to justify the "party" at graveside. I don't believe it needs to be justified. I'm asking some questions because several people on this board HAVE admitted that they judge mrs. routier guilty (just like the jury did) because of her behavior at the gravesite on ONE SINGLE occasion.

How many people do you know that have found themselves laughing hysterically at the funeral of a loved one? I mean so completely unable to control your laughter you have to excuse yourself. It may shock some of you young ones to know that this is NOT all that uncommon of an occurrence. If you've no experience in this area, ask your parents, ask your grandparent. If you ask around enough, I assure you that you WILL find it's not a completely unheard of occurence.

It happened to me. I lost all 4 of my grandparents in a 5 year period. For 3 of them I was sad and cried my eyes out. I cried when they died, I cried at the funeral and I cried often times afterwards. But for my grandpa Les, it went a little different. I was very sad when he died, of the 4 he was my favorite. I don't know if other people do that, I did have favorites among my grandparents. He was my favorite, who I'd like to be like. I got to his funeral and I was very sad. I honestly have thought about it alot, and to this day I don't know what set it off, and I can't explain why. The preacher was talking (this is graveside) and all the sudden I laughed. As I say, I don't know where it came from and I can't explain it, but it got worse. I was shocked I'd done it, but then I did it again. At this point I've found myself entirely incapable of stopping. I'm flat out fixing to explode, I'm in pain from trying to hold the laughter in. I have to leave. I run to my car, shut the door and laugh until I'm too exhausted to laugh any more.

I assure you I loved my grandpa Les with all my heart. He is to this day the best man I ever knew.

So you know, I was 42 when my grandpa Les died. It wasn't a shock as in surprise, he didn't die brutally, he died of old age. I can honestly say though that it DID have a profound mental effect on me. I can't say that I was completely sane for some time before his death, knowing it was coming, or a good while afterwards.

Can I imagine the routiers being insane? I don't just mean in shock, bereaved, etc.. but tea totally insane. I can EMPATHIZE with that. I'd suggest it would be INSANE, or more rather ENTIRELY devoid of ANY understanding of human nature, to suggest that they should behave in a sane manner. That's how I saw your post Jellyb. I saw your post as suggesting they SHOULD have been behaving in a sane manner, while your alleged point was that they should be insane (catch 22). I found your post to suggest you're lacking in life experience.

I find you to be either lacking in understanding, life experience, or empathy. I'd think the reason is you're pretty young. I hope that's what it is, otherwise I'd have to think you're a pretty COLD aged person.

I saw NOTHING WHATSOEVER wrong with the BIRTHDAY party at the gravesite. You were angered at her every smile, at her every chew, I shed tears of empathy, I bawled and just kept thinking "somebody needs to hug her".

Does one single tape, or a few pictures here and there PROVE (beyond a shadow of a doubt) to you that she DIDN'T weep herself to sleep every night Jellyb? If you were suddenly living the worst trauma of your life Jellyb, would your constant thought be "cameras are watching, HOW should I be behaving?" Are you ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that in their situation a camera could NEVER (remember, YOU suggested they should be INSANE at this point) catch you behaving in a manner some people might think innappropriate?

Jellyb, would a SANE MURDERESS, who is thinking about getting away with it, allow herself to be caught CELEBRATING AND CHEWING GUM (I laugh that you made a big deal out of she was chewing gum) when she KNOWS there's a camera there?

I think your points while trying to prove her misbehavior in fact prove she was behaving INNOCENT, not guilty. she IN FACT did NOT behave as a guilty woman with no conscience that is trying to cover up their dirty deed. A guilty woman with no conscience, that could kill her own children so brutally WOULD have been grieving and crying at that gravesite, especially since she KNEW a camera was on her. Quite the contrary, she was caught grieving only when she DIDN'T know a camera was on her.

Keep in mind that this "witness" that was mentioned who came forward later was NOT part of the defense attorneys' info gathering, it was not somebody ANY of the routiers brought forward. It was somebody that came forward AFTER the fact, AFTER all the publicity, and AFTER, apparently, AE got involved in the case.

like you I completely doubted the credibility of this late-comer witness. How in the world did they not once bother to mention this fact while the trial was ongoing? However, I don't think there is any reason to cast doubt on the credibility of the routiers because of this witness. Sadly enough there are lonely people in the world, there are people that just want any kind of attention they can get, and I think this person has just done this for no other reason than to become involved in a very public case, and the attention it will get them.

Nothing about the johnny-come-lately however should discredit the routiers. I think the "witnesses'" credibility speaks towards themselves and nobody else.

I think more than likely it is somebody that saw a chance to get involved in a big issue. I doubt in any retrial that the defense will make them a "star" witness. I doubt the prosecution would have any trouble eroding her/his credibility and the defense should know that.

It is HIGHLY unlikely this is some ploy by the defense (since he went out of his way to defend mrs routier as poorly as he possibly could have), and I doubt it's a ploy by the routiers. What incentive, beyond money could they possibly offer somebody living (the person is a neighbor) in a ritzy neighborhood to LIE for them? I would IMAGINE a great deal of money would have to be offered and we didn't see any evidence the routiers HAVE access to a great deal of money. SOOOOO, for the routiers to have "bribed" somebody into lying for them, what would they have used OTHER than money. I can't think of a thing. I think it's clear this person has to have come forward on their own. Like you however, I doubt the credibility of their story. It doesn't change my mind though, I think Mrs Routier is innocent.